Showing posts with label cool kids roundtable. Show all posts
Showing posts with label cool kids roundtable. Show all posts

Sunday, March 15, 2009

Cool Kids Roundtable: Watchmen Plus

It's always been the forbidden question: "What would you want to see in Watchmen 2?"

Forbidden in that Watchmen is held in such nearly universal high regard that the idea of a follow-up of any sort in any medium has long been looked upon as blasphemy by many. Getting folks to accept the comic being turned into a movie was a tough pill for many to swallow, but even mentioning the idea of the story picking up past that definitivie end point causes headspinning at both the mindblowing possibilities and moreover the many many many ways it could suck.

Nonetheless, as a late coda to our (well, more Rickey's) unofficial "Watchmen Week" festivities, e posed this very question to some of the Cool Kids...

Ben Morse: Untold Tales of the Comedian. I thought of this after thinking over the shot from the movie where Comedian assassinates JFK, but there are totally a wealth of stories to be told about all the shady shit Eddie Blake was tangled up in over the years. I'd want to see all his dirty government missions and find out who was giving him his orders, as well as him teaming up with various other characters. It would be a bit like an expanded version of the funeral issue (one of my favorites) with solo stuff as well.

David Paggi: Tales of the Black Freighter. I remember wanting to read a good pirate comic SO FUCKING BAD after the first time I read Watchmen. I think I went into a comic shop asking for something of the like and walked out with an Essential Tomb of Dracula or something. Sorry, the details are fuzzy and I have no recollection of exactly how that happened. At least I developed a healthy affection for Tomb of Dracula, right? So I guess I've still never seen a pirate comic series that looks as cool as Black Freighter seemed. I honestly think DC or Vertigo would do well to produce one, perhaps in the vein of Vertigo's Weird War Tales or Weird Western Tales.

Matt Powell: We're Watching the Watchmen: A Villain's Tale. I'd like to see a super-villain team-up book with all the arch enemies of the hero gang. Gritty like the Flash's rogues mixed with stories in the scope of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. We never really got to learn much about the villains, and I wanna know what they'd have to say.

T.J. Dietsch: I'd love to see the Watchmen/Minutemen/whatever you want to call them cartoon that would exist in the Watchmen universe. I'm assuming Ozy had this in the works along with an action figure line.

Hollis' book put to pictures!

Minutemen Classics - Tales of the Golden Age!

Fuck it, I'd like to see a follow-up (well, not really, but I wouldn't shun it). What happened afterwards? Did Rorschach's journal get published, did anyone believe it? Is there a new generation of heroes?

And finally, Watchmen recast as the Charlton characters! Pete Cannon in the mutha fuckin house y'all.

Rickey Purdin: You can label me as the guy who doesn't want to see anything new as I'm still stumbling through all the different ways to read the trade. I genuinely don't want to see anything else.

Kiel Phegley: Like Rickey, I have no interest in seeing more comics set within the Watchmen world. BUT....what I think would be interesting is the idea of more one off superhero tales built on the concepts of some of the old and abandoned superhero universes the way that Watchmen was built on the Charlton Action Heroes. These days, there are so many comics that sell themselves by riffing off the big two's characters, passing off the whole "It's a caped wonder with a reporter secret identity...but this time he's a hemophiliac!" I don't know. Sometimes fun stuff is built on those concepts (Invincible comes to mind) but mostly it's all played out. I'd prefer some original superhero concepts first, but I also really like the idea of taking a Watchmen approach to some comics characters. Imagine a story setting up old public domain characters like Daredevil and Black Terror in a straight noir story, or a post-apocalyptic comic centering on some Mighty Crusader stand ins. I'm not talking about a strict, licensed revival like Superpowers or the JMS' Brave & The Bold, but a killer one-off story that recasts some bigger archetypes in an interesting way like Moore & Gibbons did on Watchmen. That'd be rad.

Wednesday, January 21, 2009

Cool Kids Roundtable: The World Needs These Comics

Since it proved so popular last time around, I have once again assembled the incomporable Cool Kids to weigh in on the topics that matter to you!

The question this time: what ongoing comics would you greenlight, like, yesterday, if you had the power to do so? Once again, I go first and my distinguished colleagues follow...

S.H.I.E.L.D.
Here's the thing: there is no S.H.I.E.L.D. right now in the Marvel Universe...which is why it's the perfect time for a S.H.I.E.L.D. book! Nick Fury already has Secret Warriors, but there could be a really cool book about Dum Dum Dugan, Contessa, Clay Quartermain and company running a black ops cell dedicated to shutting Norman Osborn down. Throw in some rad off the radar super-powered characters like Solo and Deathlok as operatives, get Greg Rucka to write it and a Jesus Saiz or Renato Arlem to draw it and you got gold, baby!

Martian Manhunter
I've long said to anybody who would listen that there is an absolutely awesome Martian Manhunter book waiting to happen once somebody realizes that the character's greatest asset is that he can be anybody. That means he can transcend into any genre and play off any other character in the DC Universe. So I'm not talking just a MM solo book, I'm talking a team-up/anthology book (I'd call it Brave and the Bold, but I believe that's taken). J'onn can't carry a book on his own? Whatevs, dude, have him team up with Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, etc. But then also have him team up with Jonah Hex, Warlord, Swamp Thing, etc. Have him in westerns, crime noir stories, pure sci fi, etc. And most importantly, have Darwyn Cooke write the shit out of it with a rotating team of the best artists in the world!

Hawkeye
Clint Barton is one of the best characters in the Marvel Universe and you'd be hard-pressed to find too many fans who don't love the guy. I actually thought the late, lamented, short-lived Fabian Nicieza-penned series from like four or five years ago with Hawkeye as Lorezno Lamas in Renegade was kick ass, but it didn't do so well commercially. There's gotta be dozens of writers out there with rad Hawkeye ideas, so let's hear 'em (starting with Jim McCann)!

Suicide Squad
There is never not a good time for a Suicide Squad book. Unfortunately, the most recent mini by John Ostrander, which rocked, did not sell so well, but there are tons of big name writers who love the Squad. Geoff Johns, come on down!

Tales of the Ultraverse
'Nuff said.

David Paggi
Mister Miracle by Grant Morrison and JH Williams III

Doop by Pete Milligan and Mike Allred

All Star Flash by Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely

Nick Fury by Greg Rucka and Travis Charest

Lockjaw by Geof Darrow

The Muppet Show by Roger Langridge....oh wait, THAT'S HAPPENING

T.J. Dietsch
I'd like a Deathlok book and a Nick Fury book, but I'd like to write them both...

Kiel Phegley
Some kind of Andi Watson ongoing now that it looks like Glister is done.

Spider-Man 2104 by Matt Fraction & Mike Choi (continuing on from 2099)

Mighty Crusaders by Mark Waid and Rags Morales

A Bryan Lee O'Malley/Hope Larson collaboration

Pancake Lover Comix by Dave Paggi and Travis Charest (every issue has a holofoil cover)

And yeah, Dave...that Muppets book is going to fucking rock

Matt Powell
The Tomorrow People (UK TV show or American remake) by Grant Morrison and Ryan Sook

Brother Voodoo mystery/suspense thriller by Dwayne McDuffie

Black Panther/Brother Voodoo first meeting mini by me and some artist

Shazam ongoing by Geoff Johns and Carlos Pacheco

Perhaps: The Mod Squad by Brubaker and Phillps (too much like Criminal?)

Rickey Purdin
A WWII character-focused epic by Brian K. Vaughan and Eric Powell. Could have DC or Marvel war heroes or just be it's own thing.

All-Star Flash by Morrison and Quitely! Think of the super-science you'd get and the new ways you'd see super-speed!!! That's THREE exclamation points!

A regular Marvel and/or DC indie anthology. I've seen sample pages around the way from the Marvel one and the Bizarro collections from DC and I think indie guys have a big love for these characters and could provide new insight into them, but otherwise will never get a chance to work on them.

A Villains of the DCU series that's like JSA/JLA Classified and Superman/Batman Confidential that has a rotatng creative team and tells different stories about/focusing on the villains of the DCU. But not in a light-hearted Secret Six kinda way (which I still enjoy). More like that Jen Van Meter story from JSA Classified that shows the bad guys being BAD.

Batman/Daredevil by Bendis and Mazzuchelli!